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From: "gldrgidr" <gldrgidr@...>
Date: Sunday, December 7, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: What is missing? - CG placement
One more question.
Is the CG correct according to the plans? This glider, especially
with the stock tail length and increased wingspan is very sensitive
to CG placement. If you haven't increased the tail length then the
CG needs to be further forward to get the same stability as the stock
winged Bug.
John
--- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, "dimple_kwok" <henry.kwok@x> wrote:
> I am frustrated that I am still getting miserable flight time.
>
> I have extended the wing and lightened the pod by using a smaller
> diameter tail tube. The all up weight for the extended wing bug
> ranges from 4.5 - 5.5 Oz depends on the nose weight I put in. The
bug
> glides straight and true but the launch altitude is just pathetic.
As
> a result flight time is often less than 10 seconds. I wonder why
this
> is the case? I would like to blame the weather during my test
flight
> (wind speed of 8mph or 12km/h on an overcast day).
>
> Is it still a weight issue? Flying condition? Or is it some of
those
> dihedral / incidence business?? What on earth am I missing here?
>
> Can you help me please?
From: "gldrgidr" <gldrgidr@...>
Date: Sunday, December 7, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: What is missing?
Henry,
When you look down the fuse, do the tail surfaces look straight? You
should only see the leading edges of the tail surfaces. Twisted tail
surfaces act like spoilers (drag device to make the glider lose
altitude fast).
You say that the launches are pathetic. Are you side arm launching?
Your not going to get much altitude javelin launching - unless you're
built like Schwartzeneger. If you do side-arm-launch, does the
glider launch at a high angle (nearly vertical)?
How much experience have you had trimming a glider. Your glider may
be trimmed to fly too fast. This glider must be flown slow - just
above stall, to get it to float.
Is there a twist in the wing?
Does it have equal washout in the tips?
Does it fly straight with the rudder centered?
The weather that day may have been dumping sink on you. Have you
flown it on other days?
Unless we can see photos of the glider or get more information from
you, I don't know what else could be the problem.
John
--- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, "dimple_kwok" <henry.kwok@x> wrote:
> I am frustrated that I am still getting miserable flight time.
>
> I have extended the wing and lightened the pod by using a smaller
> diameter tail tube. The all up weight for the extended wing bug
> ranges from 4.5 - 5.5 Oz depends on the nose weight I put in. The
bug
> glides straight and true but the launch altitude is just pathetic.
As
> a result flight time is often less than 10 seconds. I wonder why
this
> is the case? I would like to blame the weather during my test
flight
> (wind speed of 8mph or 12km/h on an overcast day).
>
> Is it still a weight issue? Flying condition? Or is it some of
those
> dihedral / incidence business?? What on earth am I missing here?
>
> Can you help me please?
From: "Chris Lewis" <christopherlewis@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: What is missing?
Can you post a picture or two for us to look at?
My Lil' Bugger now has a balsa pod and weigh about 4.5 ounces
with the 34" wing. I'm using a cruciform tail and it launches
straight to about 75 feet every time. I can usually get 35-45
seconds of hang in calm air.
Can you describe the launch results? I know that my plane turns
into a kite when the wind picks up and flight times go way down.
Hang in there, this is a great little plane once you get it sorted
out.
Chris in Seattle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dimple_kwok" <henry.kwok@x...>
> To: <BugHLG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:18 PM
> Subject: [BugHLG] What is missing?
>
>
> > I am frustrated that I am still getting miserable flight time.
> >
> > I have extended the wing and lightened the pod by using a
smaller
> > diameter tail tube. The all up weight for the extended wing
bug
> > ranges from 4.5 - 5.5 Oz depends on the nose weight I put in.
The bug
> > glides straight and true but the launch altitude is just
pathetic. As
> > a result flight time is often less than 10 seconds. I wonder
why this
> > is the case? I would like to blame the weather during my test
flight
> > (wind speed of 8mph or 12km/h on an overcast day).
> >
> > Is it still a weight issue? Flying condition? Or is it some of
those
> > dihedral / incidence business?? What on earth am I missing
here?
> >
> > Can you help me please?
> >
> >
> >
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From: "Paul Johnson" <paul@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [BugHLG] What is missing?
1. Are you tip-launching it?
2. How are your (or others') planes doing in the same conditions? Can others
wring out a good flight with it?
3. Is it the plane (ie. accurate, clean wing, CG, need for differential,
etc.) or do you just need practice? Practice is the FUN part!
Lots of us need to tip-launch to get enough height to regularly hitch up
with good air, however there is a gentleman locally here that rockets his
"old-world craftsman furniture-grade" bug up there with a classic heave. I
can't throw like that. With a tip-launch, almost everyone is capable of 30
seconds even in bad conditions.
Just remember to apply outside rudder, and if you have the vee tails, be
gentle on the launch or they'll be on the ground at your side, like petals
off a rose, waiting for the rest of your bug to auger in.
Good Luck
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From: "dimple_kwok" <henry.kwok@...>
To: <BugHLG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: [BugHLG] What is missing?
> I am frustrated that I am still getting miserable flight time.
>
> I have extended the wing and lightened the pod by using a smaller
> diameter tail tube. The all up weight for the extended wing bug
> ranges from 4.5 - 5.5 Oz depends on the nose weight I put in. The bug
> glides straight and true but the launch altitude is just pathetic. As
> a result flight time is often less than 10 seconds. I wonder why this
> is the case? I would like to blame the weather during my test flight
> (wind speed of 8mph or 12km/h on an overcast day).
>
> Is it still a weight issue? Flying condition? Or is it some of those
> dihedral / incidence business?? What on earth am I missing here?
>
> Can you help me please?
>
>
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From: "dimple_kwok" <henry.kwok@...>
Date: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:18 PM
Subject: What is missing?
I am frustrated that I am still getting miserable flight time.
I have extended the wing and lightened the pod by using a smaller
diameter tail tube. The all up weight for the extended wing bug
ranges from 4.5 - 5.5 Oz depends on the nose weight I put in. The bug
glides straight and true but the launch altitude is just pathetic. As
a result flight time is often less than 10 seconds. I wonder why this
is the case? I would like to blame the weather during my test flight
(wind speed of 8mph or 12km/h on an overcast day).
Is it still a weight issue? Flying condition? Or is it some of those
dihedral / incidence business?? What on earth am I missing here?
Can you help me please?