Bug HLG

From what I've read the Mimi can fly very nicely despite its thin solid wood wing. The key is using light contest balsa rather that the 10-12. Lbs balsa I seem to find everywhere. I've also seen peoplw cut lightening holes and cover the wing with econokote or laminating film. In my tests that only saved about 5g before covering. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Paul LaChance" <plachance@cox.net> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:53:17 To: <BugHLG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Newbie - side launch John G, Thanks for the heads up. I planned to build a Bug with the convention tail rather than the V-tail, although the V-tail looks cooler. LOL I think I have seen pics of the Gamble too. Looks nice. Would like to build one of them too. I like the bigger size a little better,should thermal better. I agree, the Mimi looks nice but also seems like it would be a bit heavy due to the solid balsa wing. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gallagher To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Newbie - side launch Welcome! We haven't had activity here for a while. I launch my Bug using the side-arm method. It's a dlg launch without using a 360 degree circle to build up momentum. A different configuration tail makes this possible although a member of this group reported that he flies side-arm method with a V-tail. Check out the photos in the Gallagher folder on the group website. The mimi is a good looking little glider but is relatively heavy for a glider of this size. I've had some shoulder problems recently and am pleased to know that my Bug, at 4.25 ounces, is light enough to throw without pain. My Gambler is 5.7 ounces and seems to be above the pain point so the Bug is the only glider I can still handlaunch. John G. --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Tim Schuh <tim@poweredbythe.net> wrote: From: Tim Schuh <tim@poweredbythe.net> Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Newbie To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Cc: "Paul LaChance" <plachance@cox.net> Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:35 PM > Greetings Paul. I joined the group for basically the same reason and honestly, this is the first message I've seen. I did order a set of the Bug plans just because it looks like a fun plane to pitch around the ball park. Kinko's can make a copy for about $5 so you don't destroy your originals. There are also a couple of discus launch glider plans on the internet for free. The Mimi looks to be the most popular but you'll have to send the author an email before he sends you the plans. That said he's a very friendly chap from the Netherlands. That model uses a solid balsa wing rather than the built up wing of the Bug and it launches in a discus style rather than the baseball pitch of the Bug. You can get a much, much higher launch with a discus launch but it seems nearly all the DLGs out there are aimed at competition rather than just fun flying. A very strong majority are carbon fiber fuse, tail boom, wing and sometimes even the empennage. These present a special challenge. Since carbon is electrically conductive you are essentially putting your RX in a Farraday cage. Most manufacturers of 2.4GHz radios now have RXs just for carbon fused models with much longer antenna that are designed to protrude from the fuselage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Home Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BugHLG/ Yahoo! Groups Links

Another model I thought of recently is the QuickFlick II. Paul Daniels was nice enough to share his plans with the world. Also available as a kit from Mountain Models. http://pldaniels.com/flying/models/qfii/

John G, Thanks for the heads up. I planned to build a Bug with the convention tail rather than the V-tail, although the V-tail looks cooler. LOL I think I have seen pics of the Gamble too. Looks nice. Would like to build one of them too. I like the bigger size a little better,should thermal better. I agree, the Mimi looks nice but also seems like it would be a bit heavy due to the solid balsa wing. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gallagher To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Newbie - side launch Welcome! We haven't had activity here for a while. I launch my Bug using the side-arm method. It's a dlg launch without using a 360 degree circle to build up momentum. A different configuration tail makes this possible although a member of this group reported that he flies side-arm method with a V-tail. Check out the photos in the Gallagher folder on the group website. The mimi is a good looking little glider but is relatively heavy for a glider of this size. I've had some shoulder problems recently and am pleased to know that my Bug, at 4.25 ounces, is light enough to throw without pain. My Gambler is 5.7 ounces and seems to be above the pain point so the Bug is the only glider I can still handlaunch. John G. --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Tim Schuh <tim@...> wrote: From: Tim Schuh <tim@...> Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Newbie To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Cc: "Paul LaChance" <plachance@...> Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:35 PM > Greetings Paul. I joined the group for basically the same reason and honestly, this is the first message I've seen. I did order a set of the Bug plans just because it looks like a fun plane to pitch around the ball park. Kinko's can make a copy for about $5 so you don't destroy your originals. There are also a couple of discus launch glider plans on the internet for free. The Mimi looks to be the most popular but you'll have to send the author an email before he sends you the plans. That said he's a very friendly chap from the Netherlands. That model uses a solid balsa wing rather than the built up wing of the Bug and it launches in a discus style rather than the baseball pitch of the Bug. You can get a much, much higher launch with a discus launch but it seems nearly all the DLGs out there are aimed at competition rather than just fun flying. A very strong majority are carbon fiber fuse, tail boom, wing and sometimes even the empennage. These present a special challenge. Since carbon is electrically conductive you are essentially putting your RX in a Farraday cage. Most manufacturers of 2.4GHz radios now have RXs just for carbon fused models with much longer antenna that are designed to protrude from the fuselage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Welcome!  We haven't had activity here for a while. I launch my Bug using the side-arm method.  It's a dlg launch without using a 360 degree circle to build up momentum.   A different configuration tail makes this possible although a member of this group reported that he flies side-arm method with a V-tail.  Check out the photos in the Gallagher folder on the group website.  The mimi is a good looking little glider but is relatively heavy for a glider of this size. I've had some shoulder problems recently and am pleased to know that my Bug, at 4.25 ounces, is light enough to throw without pain.  My Gambler is 5.7 ounces and seems to be above the pain point so the Bug is the only glider  I can still handlaunch. John G. --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Tim Schuh <tim@...> wrote: From: Tim Schuh <tim@...> Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Newbie To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Cc: "Paul LaChance" <plachance@...> Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:35 PM   > Greetings Paul. I joined the group for basically the same reason and honestly, this is the first message I've seen. I did order a set of the Bug plans just because it looks like a fun plane to pitch around the ball park. Kinko's can make a copy for about $5 so you don't destroy your originals. There are also a couple of discus launch glider plans on the internet for free. The Mimi looks to be the most popular but you'll have to send the author an email before he sends you the plans. That said he's a very friendly chap from the Netherlands. That model uses a solid balsa wing rather than the built up wing of the Bug and it launches in a discus style rather than the baseball pitch of the Bug. You can get a much, much higher launch with a discus launch but it seems nearly all the DLGs out there are aimed at competition rather than just fun flying. A very strong majority are carbon fiber fuse, tail boom, wing and sometimes even the empennage. These present a special challenge. Since carbon is electrically conductive you are essentially putting your RX in a Farraday cage. Most manufacturers of 2.4GHz radios now have RXs just for carbon fused models with much longer antenna that are designed to protrude from the fuselage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks Ken, Looks like a cute little plane. I am an experienced builder, so building is not an issue. I am just out of work so trying to build something without having to buy anything. I have all the materials I need to build a smaller plane like the Bug. Maybe even something a little bigger. Just want something quick and easy as I may end up selling it soon after it is built to pay bills. The economy has got me in a bad place, but need some enjoyment in my life before I possibly lose everything(Including my house) Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Holden To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Newbie Hi Paul: Free and easy are not easy. The DLG's I've seen are difficult to build properly. I do build my own foam core carbon fiber reinforced wings. The Bug is a hoot to fly in small spaces, even smaller than 1.5m DLG's. Enjoy, Ken On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Paul LaChance <plachance@...> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am a newbie on this group although I have been flying all forms of RC and > FF for about 30 years now. In fact, in about 1984 I was using the DLG > technique on a 2 meter Tower Hobbies Easy Breezy. > > I look forward to leaning more about modern DLG gliders and am looking for > some free plans for an easy to build DLG glider to scratch build. > > Paul > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Home Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BugHLG/ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 4/1/2010 11:14 AM, Paul LaChance wrote: > Hi all, > > I am a newbie on this group although I have been flying all forms of RC and FF for about 30 years now. In fact, in about 1984 I was using the DLG technique on a 2 meter Tower Hobbies Easy Breezy. > > I look forward to leaning more about modern DLG gliders and am looking for some free plans for an easy to build DLG glider to scratch build. > > Paul > Greetings Paul. I joined the group for basically the same reason and honestly, this is the first message I've seen. I did order a set of the Bug plans just because it looks like a fun plane to pitch around the ball park. Kinko's can make a copy for about $5 so you don't destroy your originals. There are also a couple of discus launch glider plans on the internet for free. The Mimi looks to be the most popular but you'll have to send the author an email before he sends you the plans. That said he's a very friendly chap from the Netherlands. That model uses a solid balsa wing rather than the built up wing of the Bug and it launches in a discus style rather than the baseball pitch of the Bug. You can get a much, much higher launch with a discus launch but it seems nearly all the DLGs out there are aimed at competition rather than just fun flying. A very strong majority are carbon fiber fuse, tail boom, wing and sometimes even the empennage. These present a special challenge. Since carbon is electrically conductive you are essentially putting your RX in a Farraday cage. Most manufacturers of 2.4GHz radios now have RXs just for carbon fused models with much longer antenna that are designed to protrude from the fuselage.

Hi Paul: Free and easy are not easy. The DLG's I've seen are difficult to build properly. I do build my own foam core carbon fiber reinforced wings. The Bug is a hoot to fly in small spaces, even smaller than 1.5m DLG's. Enjoy, Ken On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Paul LaChance <plachance@...> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am a newbie on this group although I have been flying all forms of RC and > FF for about 30 years now. In fact, in about 1984 I was using the DLG > technique on a 2 meter Tower Hobbies Easy Breezy. > > I look forward to leaning more about modern DLG gliders and am looking for > some free plans for an easy to build DLG glider to scratch build. > > Paul > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Home Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BugHLG/ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi all, I am a newbie on this group although I have been flying all forms of RC and FF for about 30 years now. In fact, in about 1984 I was using the DLG technique on a 2 meter Tower Hobbies Easy Breezy. I look forward to leaning more about modern DLG gliders and am looking for some free plans for an easy to build DLG glider to scratch build. Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]