Thanks for the heads up Dick... Appreciated.
Dave
--- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, Richard Adams <rradams@...> wrote:
>
> Dave, when you do your article remember that it's "Babe Bee." :)
>
> Dick
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 6:34 AM, dfairchilds@... wrote:
>
> > You guys are amazing! I knew the collective memory wouldn't let me
> > down. My mind is alight with ideas. And yes, I will use a .049 glow
> > engine, probably a Baby Bee or similar.
> >
> > I shall keep you posted, and plan an article on this project for
> > one of the magazines....
> >
> > See.....real modeling is not dead!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, Richard Adams <rradams@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Beautiful proportions!
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:39 PM, janhein Ramakers wrote:
> > >
> > > > How about this one,
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cavemanrocketry.com/graupner-topsy-
> > clone_pid1348.html (I
> > > > hope
> > > > to have some time to edit the discription tomorrow)
> > > >
> > > > It is a copy of the old Graupner Topsy, originaly flown with a .
> > 49 cox
> > > > engine but it can also be powered with a small brusless engine.
> > > >
> > > > The kit is pretty easy to build and a builder with some
> > experience can
> > > > do it in a couple of evenings. I did it in a few weeks with only
> > > > one hand.
> > > >
> > > > the drawings can be downloaded from the internet or can send a
> > hard
> > > > copy
> > > > with the kit.
> > > >
> > > > succes janhein
> > > >
> > > > On 7/6/2012 1:48 AM, dfairchilds@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building
> > models
> > > > > of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started
> > when I
> > > > was
> > > > > eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to
> > being
> > > > > powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this
> > group,
> > > > but
> > > > > it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the
> > > > descent.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot
> > hand or
> > > > > winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if
> > > > > necessary.
> > > > >
> > > > > So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all
> > your
> > > > > experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff,
> > > > looking
> > > > > at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the
> > > > ionosphere
> > > > > over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
> > > > >
> > > > > Landings
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
From: Richard Adams <rradams@...> Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Re: Oh No!
Dave, when you do your article remember that it's "Babe Bee." :)
Dick
On Jul 7, 2012, at 6:34 AM, dfairchilds@... wrote:
> You guys are amazing! I knew the collective memory wouldn't let me
> down. My mind is alight with ideas. And yes, I will use a .049 glow
> engine, probably a Baby Bee or similar.
>
> I shall keep you posted, and plan an article on this project for
> one of the magazines....
>
> See.....real modeling is not dead!
>
> Dave
>
> --- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, Richard Adams <rradams@...> wrote:
> >
> > Beautiful proportions!
> >
> > Dick
> >
> >
> > On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:39 PM, janhein Ramakers wrote:
> >
> > > How about this one,
> > >
> > > http://www.cavemanrocketry.com/graupner-topsy-
> clone_pid1348.html (I
> > > hope
> > > to have some time to edit the discription tomorrow)
> > >
> > > It is a copy of the old Graupner Topsy, originaly flown with a .
> 49 cox
> > > engine but it can also be powered with a small brusless engine.
> > >
> > > The kit is pretty easy to build and a builder with some
> experience can
> > > do it in a couple of evenings. I did it in a few weeks with only
> > > one hand.
> > >
> > > the drawings can be downloaded from the internet or can send a
> hard
> > > copy
> > > with the kit.
> > >
> > > succes janhein
> > >
> > > On 7/6/2012 1:48 AM, dfairchilds@... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building
> models
> > > > of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started
> when I
> > > was
> > > > eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to
> being
> > > > powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this
> group,
> > > but
> > > > it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the
> > > descent.
> > > >
> > > > I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot
> hand or
> > > > winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if
> > > > necessary.
> > > >
> > > > So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all
> your
> > > > experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff,
> > > looking
> > > > at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the
> > > ionosphere
> > > > over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
> > > >
> > > > Landings
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
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From: "dfairchilds@..." <dfairchilds@...> Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012 7:34 AM Subject: Re: Oh No!
You guys are amazing! I knew the collective memory wouldn't let me down. My mind is alight with ideas. And yes, I will use a .049 glow engine, probably a Baby Bee or similar.
I shall keep you posted, and plan an article on this project for one of the magazines....
See.....real modeling is not dead!
Dave
--- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, Richard Adams <rradams@...> wrote:
>
> Beautiful proportions!
>
> Dick
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:39 PM, janhein Ramakers wrote:
>
> > How about this one,
> >
> > http://www.cavemanrocketry.com/graupner-topsy-clone_pid1348.html (I
> > hope
> > to have some time to edit the discription tomorrow)
> >
> > It is a copy of the old Graupner Topsy, originaly flown with a .49 cox
> > engine but it can also be powered with a small brusless engine.
> >
> > The kit is pretty easy to build and a builder with some experience can
> > do it in a couple of evenings. I did it in a few weeks with only
> > one hand.
> >
> > the drawings can be downloaded from the internet or can send a hard
> > copy
> > with the kit.
> >
> > succes janhein
> >
> > On 7/6/2012 1:48 AM, dfairchilds@... wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models
> > > of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I
> > was
> > > eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
> > >
> > > I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being
> > > powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group,
> > but
> > > it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the
> > descent.
> > >
> > > I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or
> > > winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your
> > > experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff,
> > looking
> > > at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the
> > ionosphere
> > > over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
> > >
> > > Landings
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
From: Richard Adams <rradams@...> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Oh No!
Beautiful proportions!
Dick
On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:39 PM, janhein Ramakers wrote:
> How about this one,
>
> http://www.cavemanrocketry.com/graupner-topsy-clone_pid1348.html (I
> hope
> to have some time to edit the discription tomorrow)
>
> It is a copy of the old Graupner Topsy, originaly flown with a .49 cox
> engine but it can also be powered with a small brusless engine.
>
> The kit is pretty easy to build and a builder with some experience can
> do it in a couple of evenings. I did it in a few weeks with only
> one hand.
>
> the drawings can be downloaded from the internet or can send a hard
> copy
> with the kit.
>
> succes janhein
>
> On 7/6/2012 1:48 AM, dfairchilds@... wrote:
> >
> > I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models
> > of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I
> was
> > eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
> >
> > I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being
> > powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group,
> but
> > it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the
> descent.
> >
> > I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or
> > winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if
> > necessary.
> >
> > So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your
> > experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff,
> looking
> > at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the
> ionosphere
> > over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
> >
> > Landings
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
How about this one,
http://www.cavemanrocketry.com/graupner-topsy-clone_pid1348.html (I hope
to have some time to edit the discription tomorrow)
It is a copy of the old Graupner Topsy, originaly flown with a .49 cox
engine but it can also be powered with a small brusless engine.
The kit is pretty easy to build and a builder with some experience can
do it in a couple of evenings. I did it in a few weeks with only one hand.
the drawings can be downloaded from the internet or can send a hard copy
with the kit.
succes janhein
On 7/6/2012 1:48 AM, dfairchilds@... wrote:
>
> I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models
> of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I was
> eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
>
> I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being
> powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group, but
> it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the descent.
>
> I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or
> winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if
> necessary.
>
> So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your
> experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff, looking
> at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the ionosphere
> over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
>
> Landings
>
> Dave
>
>
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From: Thomas Mabry <mabry.thomas@...> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Oh No!
If you could get your hands on a great planes spirit glider I modified one
yo take a .061 and you could speck it in 2 minutes and then thermal until
your hearts content. Although this plane is on the beefy side of modern
gliders it's a ton of fun and anyone can fly it
On Jul 6, 2012 12:16 PM, "John Gallagher" <gldrgidr@...> wrote:
> **
>
>
> The .049 was equivalent to the old speed 400 class in electrics. Most
> gliders in that class were about 60" in span. There are a lot of old hand
> launch gliders in that size that would probably work. Anything smaller
> would probably be over-powered with the .049.
> The M&M Illusion might work. http://www.mmglidertech.com/illusion.php
> Skybench's Lil'Bird 2 is in the same class.
> http://www.skybench.com/index.html?http://www.skybench.com/home.html
>
> There are a lot of vintage gas free-flight models you might like. Many
> people are converting them to RC. The Lanzo Bomber and the Playboy Jr are
> two that come to mind. The Vintage forum in RC groups has many plans
> available for these old timers.
> http://www.rcgroups.com/vintage-and-old-timer-designs-209/
>
> I asssume that you have the .049 and that's why you want to use it, but I
> would also suggest that you look into a brushless motor setup. I realize
> that it's a major change if you are only familiar with gas powered models.
>
> Let us know what you decide.
>
> John
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "dfairchilds@..." <dfairchilds@sbcglobal.net>
> To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 7:48 PM
> Subject: [BugHLG] Oh No!
>
>
> I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models of my
> own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I was eight. R/C,
> FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
>
> I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being
> powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group, but it is
> necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the descent.
>
> I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or winch
> launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if necessary.
>
> So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your
> experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff, looking at a
> max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the ionosphere over
> Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
>
> Landings
>
> Dave
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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From: John Gallagher <gldrgidr@...> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Oh No!
You have to click on Hand Launch to get to the Lil'Bird 2 on the skybench site.
John
________________________________
From: John Gallagher <gldrgidr@...>
To: "BugHLG@yahoogroups.com" <BugHLG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Oh No!
The .049 was equivalent to the old speed 400 class in electrics. Most gliders in that class were about 60" in span. There are a lot of old hand launch gliders in that size that would probably work. Anything smaller would probably be over-powered with the .049.
The M&M Illusion might work. http://www.mmglidertech.com/illusion.php
Skybench's Lil'Bird 2 is in the same class. http://www.skybench.com/index.html?http://www.skybench.com/home.html
There are a lot of vintage gas free-flight models you might like. Many people are converting them to RC. The Lanzo Bomber and the Playboy Jr are two that come to mind. The Vintage forum in RC groups has many plans available for these old timers. http://www.rcgroups.com/vintage-and-old-timer-designs-209/
I asssume that you have the .049 and that's why you want to use it, but I would also suggest that you look into a brushless motor setup. I realize that it's a major change if you are only familiar with gas powered models.
Let us know what you decide.
John
________________________________
From: "mailto:dfairchilds%40sbcglobal.net" <mailto:dfairchilds%40sbcglobal.net>
To: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 7:48 PM
Subject: [BugHLG] Oh No!
I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I was eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group, but it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the descent.
I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if necessary.
So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff, looking at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the ionosphere over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
Landings
Dave
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From: Dick Adams <rradams@...> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Oh No!
Hey, Old timer! (You have a year or two on me.) If you can find a kit for Southwest Sailplane's Baby Bowlus, this is a great sailplane for an .049 assist. Although a 6 foot wingspan, as I recall, the wing is all machined balsa and everything else is balsa, as well. Only the fuselage is to be built of balsa sheet. Terrific flier! I shredded mine through a repeater tower on final approach some 30 years ago. She was loaded down with a 7 cell nicad pack and an early .049 electric motor, so had enough mass to shred with gusto!
Dick
On Jul 5, 2012, at 6:48 PM, "dfairchilds@..." <dfairchilds@...> wrote:
> I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I was eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
>
> I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group, but it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the descent.
>
> I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if necessary.
>
> So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff, looking at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the ionosphere over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
>
> Landings
>
> Dave
>
>
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From: John Gallagher <gldrgidr@...> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [BugHLG] Oh No!
The .049 was equivalent to the old speed 400 class in electrics. Most gliders in that class were about 60" in span. There are a lot of old hand launch gliders in that size that would probably work. Anything smaller would probably be over-powered with the .049.
The M&M Illusion might work. http://www.mmglidertech.com/illusion.php
Skybench's Lil'Bird 2 is in the same class. http://www.skybench.com/index.html?http://www.skybench.com/home.html
There are a lot of vintage gas free-flight models you might like. Many people are converting them to RC. The Lanzo Bomber and the Playboy Jr are two that come to mind. The Vintage forum in RC groups has many plans available for these old timers. http://www.rcgroups.com/vintage-and-old-timer-designs-209/
I asssume that you have the .049 and that's why you want to use it, but I would also suggest that you look into a brushless motor setup. I realize that it's a major change if you are only familiar with gas powered models.
Let us know what you decide.
John
________________________________
From: "dfairchilds@..." <dfairchilds@...>
To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 7:48 PM
Subject: [BugHLG] Oh No!
I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I was eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group, but it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the descent.
I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if necessary.
So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff, looking at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the ionosphere over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
Landings
Dave
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From: Roger Ditchburn <roger.ditchburn@...> Date: Friday, July 6, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: RE: [BugHLG] Oh No!
Hello Dave!
Just wondering why an 0490 engine (was that the little PeeWee engine? sure I had one at some point!)
Ever though of a brushless system?
Dodge
To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com
From: dfairchilds@...
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 23:48:05 +0000
Subject: [BugHLG] Oh No!
I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I was eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group, but it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the descent.
I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if necessary.
So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff, looking at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the ionosphere over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
Landings
Dave
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I'm a new guy. That is going to obvious! I have been building models of my own design and others for 60 years. Yup, 60. Started when I was eight. R/C, FreeFlight, everything, Even a couple of HLG.
I am looking for a design -kit or plans- that lends itself to being powered by an 049 engine. I know that is blasphemy to this group, but it is necessary for me to engine launch and radio control the descent.
I can scratch build from plans, or build a kit, but cannot hand or winch launch. I would prefer no carbon fiber, but can do that if necessary.
So come on fellow modelers.... Rack your brains, download all your experience on me and give me some ideas.... No 2 meter stuff, looking at a max of 36-40 inch wingspan. I want to get it into the ionosphere over Arizona and thermal til my batteries explode. LOL.
Landings
Dave