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From: "John Gospodarek" <John.Gospodarek@...>
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Gyro for discus launching?
Thanks for the input. Im not sure if I will build the cruciform this time or not. I am working on a 2nd fuse but I have not had mush time. I have used a 1/8th CF tube for the boom. The V-Tail may work better than the cruciform on that size of boom. I have the V-Tail already cut so I may have already have made the choice. Thanks again, and I'm sure I will try the cruciform sometime. --- In BugHLG@y..., "bob_chiang2" <rhc3@c...> wrote: > Hi John, > > I thought about mounting the horizontal stabilizer with screws or > something, but didn't on this one. The vertical stab is slotted to > mount on the fuse boom closer to the centerline, the horizontal stab > is glued to the pylon, and the pylon glued to the boom. > > This was my first bug, and I built it with the cruciform tail. I > haven't tried a v-tail bug. The v-tail might be lighter, but from > what I've read, the cruciform is better for side arm launching: less > stress imposed on the fuse, and straighter launches. > > -BC > > --- In BugHLG@y..., "John Gospodarek" <John.Gospodarek@i...> wrote: > > Bob, did you make your tail detachable? I can't tell from the > > pictures. Do you like the new tail better than the V-tail? Thanks. > > > > > > > > --- In BugHLG@y..., "bob_chiang2" <rhc3@c...> wrote: > > > Hi Colin, > > > > > > I wish I could build with composits as you do. Your carbon Bug is > > > beautiful. > > > > > > The crashes were much easier to repair than I expected. When I > > left > > > the field after the Zagi collision, I half expected to build a new > > > wing. When I figured out what parts needed to be replaced it > > wasn't > > > so bad. It took one evening of cutting (and much pondering) and > > one > > > morning of gluing. I have been very impressed with the strength > of > > > the built-up ribs and the Bug wing. > > > > > > I did use your patterns for the tail. Thank you! All that I > > changed > > > was to increase the percentage of the movable areas. I don't know > > if > > > I needed to, but I remember reading that deflecting a larger area > a > > > smaller angle results in less drag. I put the horizontal stab on > a > > > pylon so the control horn would be in line with the fuse boom and > I > > > could run the pushrod within the boom. And I mounted the vertical > > fin > > > as close to the centerline of the fuse boom as I could while > > allowing > > > room for the pushrods to exit the tube. > > > > > > With the cruciform tail it does launch straight with no presets. > > When > > > you get your carbon Bug repaired, I'd suggest you try it without > > the > > > gyro. > > > > > > Bob Chiang > > > Ithaca, NY USA > > > > > > --- In BugHLG@y..., "Colin Bosch" <colin.bosch@m...> wrote: > > > > Bob, > > > > > > > > Love your lace wing! Sorry to see your crash photos. > > > > > > > > The tail you used looks a lot like my carbon Bug. Did you use > > those > > > > patterns? Did you change anything? > > > > > > > > I'm curious about your lauching be straight without a gyro. Are > > you > > > > getting straight launches without any presets? > > > > > > > > --Colin-- > > > > > > > > --- In BugHLG@y..., "bob_chiang2" <rhc3@c...> wrote: > > > > > --- In BugHLG@y..., "Dan" <danstrider@a...> wrote: > > > > > > Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that Colin used a gyro on his Bug for stability > during > > > > > > launch. I was wondering what gyros, if any, you all are > > using > > > > and > > > > > > their weights. > > > > > > > > > > > > Colin, I'm curious to see if a gyro is worth the weight for > > the > > > > Bug > > > > > - > > > > > > - is launch performace really affected by the gyro? Might > it > > be > > > > > > possible to manage without the gyro? My control rod setups > > are > > > > > > never rigid enough to get rid of slop, so do you think that > a > > > > gyro > > > > > > would even matter is this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > > > I've never flown with a gyro, so I don't know what they are > > > capable > > > > > of. With a cruciform tail, my Lacewing Bug side arm launches > > very > > > > > straight. Sometimes it would go up too steeply, and sometimes > > at > > > > too > > > > > shallow an angle (due to my launch inconsitencies), but I > > cannot > > > > > remember a launch that didn't go straight out. I can't > comment > > on > > > > > launching or flying a v-tail. > > > > > > > > > > When I was flying a Little Nipper, I did get launches that > > tended > > > > to > > > > > curve. I used a slight amount of right rudder trim to launch, > > > > > corrected with the stick as it slowed down, and then retrimmed > > > when > > > > I > > > > > had time during the flight. > > > > > > > > > > -Bob Chiang > > > > > Ithaca, NY USA