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From: "raincityflyer" <lewis08@...>
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: My mod's
John - I'll stick to the plans - mostly... My goals is to make it look fairly "stock", just add the bits that I like here and there. It'll have the fuse as shown, although I'll likely add some contest balsa to the bottom and top and sand it to a rounded, teardrop shape. I'll likely add some 1/64" ply doublers from forward of the front wing mounts to the rear on the inside for strength. A layer of .75 oz glass will be attached with the WBPU that I use to seal and color the airframe. The tail will use Alan's updated profiles with larger control surfaces (without holes) and the full flying rudder will have the same span and shape, it'll just be one piece with the chord narrowed. I've poached a very cool V-mount idea from another builder that I'm keen to modify and try. It'll also likely be removable for transport. I'll try to post some photos this weekend if I can find the time to get started. I prefer to SAL launch due to a bad knee, so I'll skip the peg and fill the wingtip with more contest balsa for a good thumb grip for SAL or Flip launches. I'm pretty sure I'll be making the wing two-piece as well (some Nipper habits die hard...). That'll change the fuse insides a bit as well for the mounting bolts. I'm also using a 1/4" wrapped CF tube for stiffness as I find the 1/8 pultruded piece too whippy for my tastes. That's about it. Nothing major, just some small changes... :o) Chris in Seattle --- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, John Gallagher <gldrgidr@...> wrote: > > Thanks Chris. > Cheerleader?  Just don't ask to see my Pom-Poms. > Hopefully I've been a little more than just a cheerleader.  The Drela based rudder was mine and I've been consulting with Alan off-group. >   > For your bug, are you going with a nipper tail and fuselage? >   > John > > > ________________________________ > From: raincityflyer <lewis08@...> > To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:06 AM > Subject: [BugHLG] Re: V-Tail Must GO! > > >   > John - Your point is well taken. > > Besides, anyone who wants a v-tail can figure it out by referencing the original plans. > > I personally feel that you're more of a cheerleader than anything else. > > Keep it up! > > Chris in Seattle > > --- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, John Gallagher <gldrgidr@> wrote: > > > > As owner of this group I would be the one that might be in trouble.    > > I've had some email discussions with Carl Dowdy, the designer of the original Bug, and he approved our efforts as long as this would be a new design, not just a bug look alike with a different name.  I gave the man my assurance that it would be a new design.     > > I've also accepted that the file BugX-V Tail.pdf is a design infringement.  The minimal test is whether this plan can be used to build an exact copy of the original bug.  It can.  I've always felt the file was in a gray area because it had the X tail on it but now I realize that I was just making excuses.     > > It's doubtful that RCM or Carl Dowdy would take legal action but I still think we have an obligation to respect the rights to this design.  I realize that it's a pain to get the plans from RCM and that everyone would like to get the plans for free but we can no longer keep this file as-is on  the group website.     > > I believe that both legally and morally this file must be removed.  I will remove the file BugX-V Tail.pdf  in 48 hours.  If someone would like to remove the v-tail from this plan I would accept that it could be uploaded again.   I know that this is still a gray area solution but at least we have made an effort to respect Carl's design.       > > Recently in a private email I was called a nazi for trying to force my ideas on this group.  I'm doing my best to promote the interest of this group and still respect the original Bug design rights.  This is also why I'm pushing to remove the V-tail from the Lightninbug plans.  As long as the V-tail is on the plans, you can make an argument for the idea that the plan is just a thinly-disguised, stretched version of the Bug and not a new design.   > >   > > John Gallagher > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Squid <littlefr2003@> > > To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:59 AM > > Subject: [BugHLG] Questions, Points & Comments > > > > > >   > > Legal issues, we or i am covered. As i work in the creative industry i > > got one of my mates to look over it and we are fine legally. Plus if we > > wernt, i dont really care as it would probably be some one from America > > that would have a problem and secondly its a statistic that Americans > > have no idea where New Zealand is. So i am are safe haha. No.... or not > > much offense to the Americans. > > Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >