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Re: BUG kits

From: Dick Adams <rradams@...>
Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [BugHLG] BUG kits
Thanks, John! On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:43 PM, John Gallagher <gldrgidr@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dave's email is DPCMODELS@.... For some reason yahoo cut the aol.com from the message below. > > John > > > > ________________________________ > From: gldrgidr gldrgidr@...> > To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:04 PM > Subject: [BugHLG] Re: BUG kits > > > > The price for the kit is $20 plus shipping. Dave will cut either an AG37 kit or a 3014 kit. There are also tail options to choose from. > Ask for a parts ID sheet to see the options available. > > John > > --- In mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com, "gldrgidr" wrote: > > > > For future reference, go to the group site and click on messages on the left side. There's a small box in the center above the first message shown for message number. > > > > > > --- In mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com, "Target" wrote: > > > > > > Hi, Frank- > > > > > > I bought the Bug laser cut kits from Dave at DPCMODELS@ > > > He charged very little for the parts, and already has the files. The service was extremely fast, and he is located in the Southwestern US, in New Mexico. > > > Dave told me I could post his info here, but urged me to state that he is CLOSED until Jan 5th. > > > I HIGHLY recommend his laser cutting services, based on my first experience with him being 100% positive. > > > Please respect his wishes to wait until Jan 5th before trying to contact him. When you do, I'm sure you will be satisfied with the service he provides. > > > Also, you will need the non-laser cut pieces, like the TE, LE dowel, wing spars, etc. You'll be getting JUST the balsa and ply fuse tail and wing parts. > > > > > > I will post more when I get my group of 5 rolling on the bug project > > > I'm currently at the opposite end of the spectrum, working on restoring a hand-me-down crashed 1/4 scale Discus sailplane, should weigh about 15 pounds RTF! > > > > > > R, > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com, fcw37363@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Please tell me where I can buy a Bug Kit. Thank in advance. > > > > Frank > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cbbehm.lmbehm@ > > > > Sender: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:35:40 > > > > To: > > > > Reply-To: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [BugHLG] BUG DLG Modifications > > > > > > > > DLR- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All sounds good. > > > > > > > I'm wondering about the radio gear for the bug, particularly the battery and servos. I fly JR/Spektrum, so I plan on one of the HK Orange Rx's. > > > > > > > I have 4 buddies, I bought us all laser cut Lightnin' Bug kits with the AG wing profile and ribs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another question is how to get the lightest tail parts... Holes and covering? Or sealed (or glassed) solid surfaces uncovered? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R, > > > > > > > Chris B > > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: "drawley@" > > > > > > > Sender: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:35:25 > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Reply-To: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Subject: [BugHLG] BUG DLG Modifications > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years as time (allotted by my wife) has allowed me to play, I have refined my BUG to withstand full power DLG launches (at least by me). I have kept with the standard planform, and modified as my launch technique improved and thus the power put into the launch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First thing I modified was the extension of the the carbon spar to the tip on the AC left wing. I actually just pinch this point for DL, as the plane has very little mass to contend with during launch. I used a 0.500" ply of carbon tissue on each side to distribute the load into the local area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next thing I consistently lost was the V-Tail. A few iterations led me back to maintaining the V-Tail and skinning them with .075 oz glass on one side only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This got me to the point where I ended up shearing the spar from the rib attach points. Solved this issue with carbon tissue again, this time using it on the outboard side of the wing ribs in a .750" wide patch centered over the attach point. This allowed the spar to be inserted from the tip inboard and reinforce the inside of the hole as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next thing to go was the LE to Rib attach points. I built the next wing using carbon tow overlapping the LE and rib interface by about 1.00". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere along the line I added an EPP foam nose to help with landing rash. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fuselage is the next item I would like to improve, mostly due to multiple re-builds while teaching my daughter to fly the bug:) oh and the occasional impact with a goal post, and the ground, and the... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bug is by far my most flown RC due to size, portability, and fun. I often fly during lunch and break weather and schedule permitting. Currently I am in another rebuild of the fuse, and recover of the wing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I get time over break, I plan to do a full build, from scratch to get a good weight to pass along to you all. Currently there are so many patches it wouldn't be a fair assessment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of my flying buddies can't believe how strong of a launch I can get with the bug, and other than the fuse, it is pretty bulletproof. Still get dead air flights around 20 seconds, and I often catch enough to extend that, so it keeps me entertained:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that gives some ideas, > > > > > > > Pics to follow, once I figure out how. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > DLR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Home Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BugHLG/ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From: John Gallagher <gldrgidr@...>
Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [BugHLG] BUG kits
Dave's email is DPCMODELS@....  For some reason yahoo cut the aol.com from the message below.   John   ________________________________ From: gldrgidr <gldrgidr@...> To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:04 PM Subject: [BugHLG] Re: BUG kits   The price for the kit is $20 plus shipping. Dave will cut either an AG37 kit or a 3014 kit. There are also tail options to choose from. Ask for a parts ID sheet to see the options available. John --- In mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com, "gldrgidr" wrote: > > For future reference, go to the group site and click on messages on the left side. There's a small box in the center above the first message shown for message number. > > > --- In mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com, "Target" wrote: > > > > Hi, Frank- > > > > I bought the Bug laser cut kits from Dave at DPCMODELS@ > > He charged very little for the parts, and already has the files. The service was extremely fast, and he is located in the Southwestern US, in New Mexico. > > Dave told me I could post his info here, but urged me to state that he is CLOSED until Jan 5th. > > I HIGHLY recommend his laser cutting services, based on my first experience with him being 100% positive. > > Please respect his wishes to wait until Jan 5th before trying to contact him. When you do, I'm sure you will be satisfied with the service he provides. > > Also, you will need the non-laser cut pieces, like the TE, LE dowel, wing spars, etc. You'll be getting JUST the balsa and ply fuse tail and wing parts. > > > > I will post more when I get my group of 5 rolling on the bug project > > I'm currently at the opposite end of the spectrum, working on restoring a hand-me-down crashed 1/4 scale Discus sailplane, should weigh about 15 pounds RTF! > > > > R, > > Chris > > > > --- In mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com, fcw37363@ wrote: > > > > > > Please tell me where I can buy a Bug Kit. Thank in advance. > > > Frank > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cbbehm.lmbehm@ > > > Sender: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:35:40 > > > To: > > > Reply-To: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [BugHLG] BUG DLG Modifications > > > > > > DLR- > > > > > > > > > > All sounds good. > > > > > I'm wondering about the radio gear for the bug, particularly the battery and servos. I fly JR/Spektrum, so I plan on one of the HK Orange Rx's. > > > > > I have 4 buddies, I bought us all laser cut Lightnin' Bug kits with the AG wing profile and ribs. > > > > > > > > > > Another question is how to get the lightest tail parts... Holes and covering? Or sealed (or glassed) solid surfaces uncovered? > > > > > > > > > > R, > > > > > Chris B > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: "drawley@" > > > > > Sender: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:35:25 > > > > > To: > > > > > Reply-To: mailto:BugHLG%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [BugHLG] BUG DLG Modifications > > > > > > > > > > Over the years as time (allotted by my wife) has allowed me to play, I have refined my BUG to withstand full power DLG launches (at least by me). I have kept with the standard planform, and modified as my launch technique improved and thus the power put into the launch. > > > > > > > > > > First thing I modified was the extension of the the carbon spar to the tip on the AC left wing. I actually just pinch this point for DL, as the plane has very little mass to contend with during launch. I used a 0.500" ply of carbon tissue on each side to distribute the load into the local area. > > > > > > > > > > Next thing I consistently lost was the V-Tail. A few iterations led me back to maintaining the V-Tail and skinning them with .075 oz glass on one side only. > > > > > > > > > > This got me to the point where I ended up shearing the spar from the rib attach points. Solved this issue with carbon tissue again, this time using it on the outboard side of the wing ribs in a .750" wide patch centered over the attach point. This allowed the spar to be inserted from the tip inboard and reinforce the inside of the hole as well. > > > > > > > > > > The next thing to go was the LE to Rib attach points. I built the next wing using carbon tow overlapping the LE and rib interface by about 1.00". > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere along the line I added an EPP foam nose to help with landing rash. > > > > > > > > > > The fuselage is the next item I would like to improve, mostly due to multiple re-builds while teaching my daughter to fly the bug:) oh and the occasional impact with a goal post, and the ground, and the... > > > > > > > > > > The bug is by far my most flown RC due to size, portability, and fun. I often fly during lunch and break weather and schedule permitting. Currently I am in another rebuild of the fuse, and recover of the wing. > > > > > > > > > > If I get time over break, I plan to do a full build, from scratch to get a good weight to pass along to you all. Currently there are so many patches it wouldn't be a fair assessment. > > > > > > > > > > Most of my flying buddies can't believe how strong of a launch I can get with the bug, and other than the fuse, it is pretty bulletproof. Still get dead air flights around 20 seconds, and I often catch enough to extend that, so it keeps me entertained:) > > > > > > > > > > Hope that gives some ideas, > > > > > Pics to follow, once I figure out how. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > DLR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Home Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BugHLG/ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From: "gldrgidr" <gldrgidr@...>
Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: BUG kits
The price for the kit is $20 plus shipping. Dave will cut either an AG37 kit or a 3014 kit. There are also tail options to choose from. Ask for a parts ID sheet to see the options available. John --- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, "gldrgidr" wrote: > > For future reference, go to the group site and click on messages on the left side. There's a small box in the center above the first message shown for message number. > > > --- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, "Target" wrote: > > > > Hi, Frank- > > > > I bought the Bug laser cut kits from Dave at DPCMODELS@ > > He charged very little for the parts, and already has the files. The service was extremely fast, and he is located in the Southwestern US, in New Mexico. > > Dave told me I could post his info here, but urged me to state that he is CLOSED until Jan 5th. > > I HIGHLY recommend his laser cutting services, based on my first experience with him being 100% positive. > > Please respect his wishes to wait until Jan 5th before trying to contact him. When you do, I'm sure you will be satisfied with the service he provides. > > Also, you will need the non-laser cut pieces, like the TE, LE dowel, wing spars, etc. You'll be getting JUST the balsa and ply fuse tail and wing parts. > > > > I will post more when I get my group of 5 rolling on the bug project > > I'm currently at the opposite end of the spectrum, working on restoring a hand-me-down crashed 1/4 scale Discus sailplane, should weigh about 15 pounds RTF! > > > > R, > > Chris > > > > --- In BugHLG@yahoogroups.com, fcw37363@ wrote: > > > > > > Please tell me where I can buy a Bug Kit. Thank in advance. > > > Frank > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cbbehm.lmbehm@ > > > Sender: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:35:40 > > > To: > > > Reply-To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [BugHLG] BUG DLG Modifications > > > > > > DLR- > > > > > > > > > > All sounds good. > > > > > I'm wondering about the radio gear for the bug, particularly the battery and servos. I fly JR/Spektrum, so I plan on one of the HK Orange Rx's. > > > > > I have 4 buddies, I bought us all laser cut Lightnin' Bug kits with the AG wing profile and ribs. > > > > > > > > > > Another question is how to get the lightest tail parts... Holes and covering? Or sealed (or glassed) solid surfaces uncovered? > > > > > > > > > > R, > > > > > Chris B > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: "drawley@" > > > > > Sender: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:35:25 > > > > > To: > > > > > Reply-To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [BugHLG] BUG DLG Modifications > > > > > > > > > > Over the years as time (allotted by my wife) has allowed me to play, I have refined my BUG to withstand full power DLG launches (at least by me). I have kept with the standard planform, and modified as my launch technique improved and thus the power put into the launch. > > > > > > > > > > First thing I modified was the extension of the the carbon spar to the tip on the AC left wing. I actually just pinch this point for DL, as the plane has very little mass to contend with during launch. I used a 0.500" ply of carbon tissue on each side to distribute the load into the local area. > > > > > > > > > > Next thing I consistently lost was the V-Tail. A few iterations led me back to maintaining the V-Tail and skinning them with .075 oz glass on one side only. > > > > > > > > > > This got me to the point where I ended up shearing the spar from the rib attach points. Solved this issue with carbon tissue again, this time using it on the outboard side of the wing ribs in a .750" wide patch centered over the attach point. This allowed the spar to be inserted from the tip inboard and reinforce the inside of the hole as well. > > > > > > > > > > The next thing to go was the LE to Rib attach points. I built the next wing using carbon tow overlapping the LE and rib interface by about 1.00". > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere along the line I added an EPP foam nose to help with landing rash. > > > > > > > > > > The fuselage is the next item I would like to improve, mostly due to multiple re-builds while teaching my daughter to fly the bug:) oh and the occasional impact with a goal post, and the ground, and the... > > > > > > > > > > The bug is by far my most flown RC due to size, portability, and fun. I often fly during lunch and break weather and schedule permitting. Currently I am in another rebuild of the fuse, and recover of the wing. > > > > > > > > > > If I get time over break, I plan to do a full build, from scratch to get a good weight to pass along to you all. Currently there are so many patches it wouldn't be a fair assessment. > > > > > > > > > > Most of my flying buddies can't believe how strong of a launch I can get with the bug, and other than the fuse, it is pretty bulletproof. Still get dead air flights around 20 seconds, and I often catch enough to extend that, so it keeps me entertained:) > > > > > > > > > > Hope that gives some ideas, > > > > > Pics to follow, once I figure out how. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > DLR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Home Page - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BugHLG/ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >