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Hello charles pls send me your complete adress and i will put you on the list for a kit. greetings janhein ... [Non-text portions of this message have been
From janhein Ramakers · March 14, 2012 2:33 PM
Charles Conti 206-310-7884 ... From: janhein Ramakers To: BugHLG Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2012 7:59 am
From dmn1003@aol.com · March 14, 2012 2:23 PM
Durability is an interesting tradeoff. I once complained to the designer of the Little Nipper/Seeker/Swyft about things being fragile and not surviving my
From raincityflyer · March 14, 2012 11:01 AM
John - Your point is well taken. Besides, anyone who wants a v-tail can figure it out by referencing the original plans. I personally feel that you re more of
From raincityflyer · March 14, 2012 11:06 AM
As owner of this group I would be the one that might be in trouble. I ve had some email discussions with Carl Dowdy, the designer of the original Bug,
From John Gallagher · March 14, 2012 10:34 AM
... Tailboom.com provides extensive instructions in a Word format document which is linked from this page: http://www.tailboom.com/teflon.php Click on the
From kb11troy · March 14, 2012 8:46 AM
janhein Ramakers: Wonderful that you are going to do a laser cut. Have you done it yet? How did it all go? Did i stuff up anywhere? Keep me updated with this.
From Squid · March 14, 2012 5:01 AM
janhein Ramakers: Wonderful that you are going to do a laser cut. Have you done it yet? How did it all go? Did i stuff up anywhere? Keep me updated with this.
From Squid · March 14, 2012 4:59 AM
janhein Ramakers: Wonderful that you are going to do a laser cut. Have you done it yet? How did it all go? Did i stuff up anywhere? Keep me updated with this.
From Squid · March 14, 2012 4:59 AM
I will also go another direction here with a .025 cf rod for the full flying elevator and a spring/string for the rudder. Super light. For general use, the
From raincityflyer · March 14, 2012 1:23 AM
Agreed. My Bug/Little Nipper/Seeker/Swyft builds have taught me that good wood selection and WBPU beat covering every time for weight. A little FG judiciously
From raincityflyer · March 14, 2012 1:19 AM
Hey, John - How about Lytnin Bug ? :P I personally like Alan s version as it adds a little down under flavor. I can just hear it with the Kiwi accent. I
From raincityflyer · March 14, 2012 1:13 AM
This is why I suggested the intentional miss-spelling of the name to Liteninbug. Not likely that anyone else used this name spelling before. For an examble,
From John Gallagher · March 13, 2012 9:34 PM
Part of the reason I voted this to be DLG-only is to make this design unique from the Bug design. Are we creating a new design or just copying the Bug?
From John Gallagher · March 13, 2012 9:16 PM
Hi, I have just been looking at the Flying Models plans catalogue (pdf d/l) and found this name is already used...a small powered electric R/C....CF857
From Laurie · March 13, 2012 8:57 PM
I want to keep both in...it spurs more ideas etc and cross pollination of the designs.... one thing I have planed to do is a DLG V Tail using a sub
From Laurie · March 13, 2012 6:38 PM
We need to have a discussion on the holes in the tail members of the new design. Some people will find that the holes will cause a weakening of the structure
From John Gallagher · March 13, 2012 12:04 PM
Nice to hear, do you have a total cost estimate?
From dodgeditchrc · March 13, 2012 9:02 AM
No problem. greetings Jan-Hein ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From janhein Ramakers · March 13, 2012 8:50 AM
Would there be an option to ship to the UK?
From dodgeditchrc · March 13, 2012 8:49 AM
The plans are ready for the lazer cutter now, And I will do some test cuts this fiday. so for any one who is interested there will come a short kit of the
From janhein Ramakers · March 13, 2012 8:39 AM
I will revise the name poll but this does mean everyone will have to vote again. sorry, John
From gldrgidr · March 13, 2012 8:28 AM
Sorry but I really don t care for either of these, Why can t it be Lightningbug? MarkM ... From: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Subject:
From Mark Moran · March 13, 2012 7:35 AM
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the BugHLG group: Which spelling of the name of this new design do you prefer? o Lightninbug o
From BugHLG@yahoogroups.com · March 12, 2012 10:44 PM
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the BugHLG group: There are two designs for the fin/rudder on the plans. The circular one (shown on the
From BugHLG@yahoogroups.com · March 12, 2012 10:40 PM
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the BugHLG group: Should the plan include a V-tail option for those who want to hand launch javelin
From BugHLG@yahoogroups.com · March 12, 2012 10:20 PM
Will do. John ________________________________ From: Squid To: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:57 PM Subject:
From John Gallagher · March 12, 2012 8:43 PM
Thanks Chris, Maybe that strengthener can go on the inside of the fuse for a finger pinch grip for launching there? Just with out the dowel. Yes its too bad
From Squid · March 12, 2012 8:02 PM
Good idea. Although there was a guy doing dlg with the vtail to save weight? Also possible Nostalgia? Any thoughts people? Lets get the poll thing going John.
From Squid · March 12, 2012 7:57 PM
Ok Great will you send me a link to your paypall just let me know what you need Thanks Rick Starrantino ________________________________ From:
From Ricky Starr · March 12, 2012 2:51 PM
This is really nice. Great job Alan! I m in for the SAL version. I ve seen some Slermal guys that chuck their small gliders by the fuse rather than the wing
From raincityflyer · March 12, 2012 11:38 AM
Ricky S I would like to get on this list as well for 2 kits Charles Conti DMN1003@aol.com 4100 Mathew Dr Cleburne TX 76031 Charles Conti 206-310-7884 ... From:
From dmn1003@aol.com · March 12, 2012 11:06 AM
Hello Ricky I will make some short kits at the end of this week, and have them ready for shipping. when they are ready you can send me a payment by paypal. I
From janhein Ramakers · March 12, 2012 8:26 AM
Do we want to make this plan for hlg? I think it should be just for dlg. I d vote to leave off the V-tail altogether and just make it a DLG/SAL. John
From gldrgidr · March 12, 2012 7:06 AM
The print shop is nice! I ve found a trick to lining up tile print. Make sure in adobe you select print with alignment marks. Then use a strait pin to get
From Mitch Eaves · March 12, 2012 12:58 AM
i would like to order 2 sets do you have pay pall thanks Ricky S ________________________________ From: janhein Ramakers To:
From Ricky Starr · March 11, 2012 12:36 PM
FYI....I have tried to tile print (20 A4 pages) it with Adobe Reader X aka Acrobat v10....but little errors of alignment crept in while I taped the rows
From Laurie · March 12, 2012 12:43 AM
I m not completely sure becuase the plan doesn t show where the 1/16 balsa doubler goes, but I believe that in the original plan it was there to double the
From kb11troy · March 11, 2012 4:04 PM
I just looked over the new plan- it s great, and nicely done. As far as I know, I m the only one who has done music wire pushrods in teflon tubing, so I might
From kb11troy · March 11, 2012 3:20 PM
Hi Guys, Please note that version 01 the rudder position is incorrect and version 01a it has been corrected. All that download it please take part in the poll
From Squid · March 11, 2012 2:48 PM
Thanks Alan!!!...just downloaded this and will get it printed in Pukekohe asap....Rgds....Laurie
From Laurie · March 10, 2012 10:02 PM
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the BugHLG group. File : /Lightninbug 34
From BugHLG@yahoogroups.com · March 10, 2012 9:53 PM
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the BugHLG group. File : /Lightninbug 34
From BugHLG@yahoogroups.com · March 10, 2012 9:49 PM
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the BugHLG group. File : /Lightninbug 34
From BugHLG@yahoogroups.com · March 10, 2012 9:47 PM
Hi all, FYI Geode of Maznta fame etc is still online.....just got a PM from him in RC Groups... Laurie [Non-text portions of this message have been
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · March 10, 2012 8:10 PM
I do have an Epilog laser cutter, and the price for a short kit of the original bug will be around 10 euro s including material. ... [Non-text portions of this
From janhein Ramakers · March 10, 2012 12:17 PM
Alan And I have been having some discussions and we both agree that the first plan will be a preliminary plan. It will have options that will need to be test
From gldrgidr · March 10, 2012 11:24 AM
What kind of laser cutter you have and much do they cost? On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 1:06 AM, janhein Ramakers
From Juan Balnius · March 10, 2012 11:08 AM
I do have a laser cutter and it is no problem to make a short kit of the bug, cutting time for a kit wont be more than 10 minutes. But if i get a drawing of
From janhein Ramakers · March 10, 2012 2:06 AM
Hello all I know the Bug is easy to build becasue I ve build four over the last two years. I was woundering if any one was going to do a laser short kit for
From Steven · March 9, 2012 10:00 PM
Printable Manta plans available here. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12797036&postcount=382 This thread is all on the Manta and earlier there
From Mark Moran · March 9, 2012 10:41 AM
I like this. I actually built a plane like this called the Model K. It looked cool, but I struggled with CG. I d be happy to try building one, though. Chris in
From raincityflyer · March 8, 2012 7:35 PM
It actually has the sweep taken out. It does look cool, but the good thing about the sweep back of the Bug wing is that it makes it easier to balance - it
From John Gallagher · March 8, 2012 6:15 PM
Whoops just read the expanded email....now know its not the Bug upate....still would be interested in getting the plans for this Manta reduced.... Do you
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · March 8, 2012 5:08 PM
Yeah it does...is this what Alans doing...??...Laurie ... -- Laurie Carroll (LWJ Carroll) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · March 8, 2012 5:06 PM
Mine looks like this!! Enough crashes and it soon changes!
From dodgeditchrc · March 8, 2012 6:22 AM
Looks a bit like a smaller version of the Manta. Nice shape - but its not really a BUG. ... From: Squid Subject: [BugHLG] Forward
From Mark Moran · March 8, 2012 5:43 AM
A little off subject but this looks quite cool? Any one with me?
From Squid · March 8, 2012 3:49 AM
Alan - Sorry to hear you are not feeling well. Get better soon. I m sure that I can wait without disastrous health effects myself until you are feeling better.
From raincityflyer · March 7, 2012 3:36 PM
Anyone in the UK wanting etched PTFE tubing for pushrod guides etc. might be interested in Mike Woodhouse Free Flight Supplies site. Lots of other good stuff
From Mark · March 7, 2012 10:48 AM
Just a few thoughts from a traditional stick and tissue builders viewpoint. As far as I know what follows is common on both sides of the Atlantic. I m in the
From Mark · March 7, 2012 10:30 AM
Sounds brill! Can t wait to get building! Let me know if you would like a 3D version doing and I can get it done over weekend. The standard Bug in 3D is almost
From dodgeditchrc · March 6, 2012 5:28 PM
Hi ya Chris, yes sorry all for the delay on the bug plans. I have been sick 4 days in total now. Some asian flu, not much chop! The plan is essntually finished
From Squid · March 6, 2012 5:24 PM
Alan - How goes it? I m excited to get started. Chris in Seattle
From raincityflyer · March 6, 2012 4:48 PM
Perhaps the Creative Commons thing would cover it not being used commercially etc..??...I think that is the term..?? Laurie [Non-text portions of this
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · March 3, 2012 6:57 PM
Ref Stringing the LE ....sorry I now understand it as stringers on forward portion of the LE usually in front of a spar....I was thinking of a piece of string
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · March 3, 2012 6:55 PM
Alan, I will try to find my original plans or find a picture of the turbulators. The Easy Breezy had 2 or 3 rows of them on the upper leading edge between the
From plachance@cox.net · March 3, 2012 11:47 AM
We better get Carl s name spelled right - Carl Dowdy. By the way, Carl is a member of this group. He doesn t get the emails but does drop in to the group
From John Gallagher · March 3, 2012 10:14 AM
If you look at post #481 in the RCG Bringing Back the Bug thread, you ll find a picture of a Bug made with stringing (well, one stringer anyway). Looks
From kb11troy · March 3, 2012 7:35 AM
Hi Laurie, I am currently trying to find some reference to what i mentioned earlier but have been unsuccessful so far. What i am going on is a conversation i
From Squid · March 3, 2012 1:06 AM
Hi Night Owl, Hahaha ok ill explain a little more. When i was redrawing the bug plan i was not sure what the actual airfoil was, so i went through about 50 odd
From Squid · March 3, 2012 1:00 AM
Hi John, yes i am in 100% agreement with you. These mods and development changes have all come from the bug group. Thus this plan is and should be free to the
From Squid · March 3, 2012 12:59 AM
It might be time to talk about the ownership of this design. The first post to this group was on April 3, 2002. We are approaching the ten year anniversary
From John Gallagher · March 2, 2012 10:50 PM
... Alan, Fraid you lost me here. (I am easily confused!) Is this the Selig 8040 laid atop the airfoil used for The Bug, or the Selig 8040 over the Selid
From Night · March 2, 2012 10:45 AM
Stringing the leading edge is interesting....any more info on that ??? Rgds Laurie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · March 2, 2012 5:52 AM
Thant would be a good idea......I dont have an R/C sim going now (upgraded to WIN7 etc) but have FSX and XPlanes 9.XX Rgds Laurie [Non-text portions of this
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · March 2, 2012 5:48 AM
Hahahah woops! Gee thats not good the plan designer is getting the name of the airfoil wrong! I do no what im doing.... most of the time. (my excuses is its
From Squid · March 1, 2012 10:29 PM
Alan, Just trying to get rid of the confusion I started. The original Bug airfoil is a Selig 3014. I suggested the Bugger but I also like something like
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 10:16 PM
I had an old 2 meter glider called the Easy Breezy back in the 80’s and it used 2 balsa strips between the leading edge and the main spar. There were used
From plachance@cox.net · March 1, 2012 9:49 PM
Im currently looking into setting the models up for Realflight, if it doesnt seem to complicated I will definitely get it done for that!
From dodgeditchrc · March 1, 2012 9:45 PM
Thanks for the thoughts. What ill do is include a few options of the airfoil. Like John said, the original Selig 7014, AG37 & maybe the Drela foils. Optional
From Squid · March 1, 2012 9:31 PM
I would like to add my vote for Lightningbug . ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Katie Taylor · March 1, 2012 9:22 PM
Yes. Am I crazy, or can it be installed into Real Flight? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Katie Taylor · March 1, 2012 9:02 PM
Hi Buggers! Glad to see some life on this site! Some thoughts on airfoils follow. The new Selig and Drela airfoils require very high precision in construction
From KenSAM51 · March 1, 2012 9:07 PM
Hi, Would anyone be interested in a 3D model of the Bug? To stick in a flight sim? or experiment with paint schemes?
From dodgeditchrc · March 1, 2012 8:06 PM
With the airfoil this thin, subribs would be mandatory. John ________________________________ From: John Gallagher To:
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 7:56 PM
Guy s: I would like to suggest that templates could be made for the S3014,S8040 and even thr Drela foils as time and ambition allows. {of course its easy for
From Michael Daly · March 1, 2012 7:50 PM
Let us compare apples to apples. Here s a comparison of S3014 vs AG37, both at the same thickness -7.74%.
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 7:49 PM
Hi squid, I have been watching with interest over the last 2 years, the development of the Bug (bought a plan from RCM etc.) on this forum, but never got round
From dblakemore141 · March 1, 2012 3:05 PM
Sorry - Slipped into Social Media speak there. +1 means I m also in support of this direction. A trendy way of saying I agree , Me, too! , Ditto , etc.
From raincityflyer · March 1, 2012 6:19 PM
Sorry do you mean. Go to the AG38 airfoil or you are keen on the AG37?
From Squid · March 1, 2012 3:34 PM
+1 cl
From raincityflyer · March 1, 2012 3:32 PM
What do you think of this more modern airfoil for a possible variation?
From Squid · March 1, 2012 3:27 PM
Hi John, here is a comparison of the two airfoils. Selig 3014 Vs Selig 8040
From Squid · March 1, 2012 3:16 PM
Sorry guys. It s is S3014 not S7014. This is a very popular airfoil for builtup gliders. Almost all of the Skybench gliders are S3014. John
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 2:45 PM
Sorry Squid. It s s3014. Most of the Selig airfoils look similar so you can t compare them by eye. ________________________________ From: Squid
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 2:38 PM
The UIUC database has coordinates for the Selig 7012. It looks pretty close. Rick
From kb11troy · March 1, 2012 2:19 PM
Hey John. I m still here. Not building or flying lately due to losing our field to the soccer hooligans. I ve been itching to do another build and this thread
From raincityflyer · March 1, 2012 2:11 PM
Hi guys Yes i do have the original plan. But i cannot find any .dat files or any files in airfoil databases for a Selig 7014. Does any one have one out there?
From Squid · March 1, 2012 1:42 PM
Chris, The drela airfoils get their superior performance because of their use of increased percentage of leading edge sheeting on both the top and bottom of
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 1:02 PM