Archive of the Yahoo! Groups mailing list for the Bug hand-launch glider 2002-2018
Rick, Thanks for the link. We might be able to make a group purchase. An alternative is the Sullivan GOLD-N-CABLE #507. They are a bit heavier but
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 12:43 PM
Chris, Hi. It s good to hear from raincityflier. Reminds me of the early days of the Little Nipper design. You are probably right about the name change.
From gldrgidr · March 1, 2012 12:25 PM
Hi. Just received a response from the original designer of the Bug about our plans to modify the design. ... I was a little protective of RCM s right to sell
From gldrgidr · March 1, 2012 12:12 PM
I ve had good luck with Drela s AG 35-38 airfoils as they are flat bottomed and faceted on top for balsa construction and iron-on covering. No worries about
From raincityflyer · March 1, 2012 11:55 AM
Squid/John/All - Happy to see the effort put into formalizing all of the mod s generated over the years. RCM probably owns the rights (not Carl unfortunately).
From raincityflyer · March 1, 2012 11:28 AM
I like this sudden surge (or re-surge)of interest in the Bug and the idea of drawing an updated plan. Regarding the music wire in teflon tube pushrods I used:
From kb11troy · March 1, 2012 8:11 AM
If you have the original plans you see that the airfoil is the Selig 7014. This is a very popular airfoil. My suggistion was to reduce the thickness to
From John Gallagher · March 1, 2012 4:28 AM
Any airfoil that keeps it in the air for a while is one on I look for. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Juan Balnius · March 1, 2012 2:20 AM
Hi Guys, another question. I have been doing allot of airfoil comparisons with the current bug airfoil. So far the closet i have found is Selig/Donovan SD8040
From Squid · March 1, 2012 1:22 AM
One other thought. RCM has the rights to sell the plans for the HLG short span version only. The 34 span will be a DLG. I m the owner of this group and I
From John Gallagher · February 29, 2012 10:51 PM
The Bug uses a publicly available airfoil (Selig) and the proposed plan would include only the increased span version. I believe that : changing the span,
From John Gallagher · February 29, 2012 10:31 PM
Heya, Squid. I think the stretched Bug is a great idea, and I d love to see plans for it, especially in .pdf that I can tile and print with my limited
From Night · February 29, 2012 8:49 PM
Squid, I m glad to see somebody doing an updated Bug. My first choice for servos is the Dymond D-4.7 . Good centering, strong gear train for it s size, 4.7
From Lee Teicheira · February 29, 2012 6:23 PM
great idea, I was just thinking about building another bug so count me in. good to see that has livened things up in the bug world Jono
From Jono · February 29, 2012 5:13 PM
I would be interested in a set of modified bug plans. I am just finishing my first bug and have enjoyed building it so much I am considering Buging my
From Michael Daly · February 29, 2012 12:55 PM
Thanks for that John, that feed back is very helpful. • Yes the normal rib spacing is kept with the half ribs being optional in-between. • Yes good idea
From Squid · February 29, 2012 3:42 AM
I have to agree. The only time I ve heard of a problem with fiberglass is chopped fiberglass being inhaled. No problem with cloth. John
From John Gallagher · February 28, 2012 11:19 PM
I just started learning CAD to do this but go for it. PDF files are very easy to print or have printed by a copy shop. Because I want the lightest weight
From John Gallagher · February 28, 2012 10:48 PM
I have had the same idea. Just haven t time to work on it. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Juan Balnius · February 28, 2012 5:18 PM
Hi... 1/ dont know...see info etc at RCGroups and other Forums.. 2/...I just did that looks about right hole over the hinge line and about 1/8 to 1/4 out
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · February 28, 2012 7:49 PM
Yes I will be interested...especially if its made available as a PDF...the newer version of Foxit can tile print PDF s....Rgds....Laurie I also can get it
From Laurie · February 28, 2012 7:44 PM
What is so dangerous about fiberglass cloth? Seems pretty benign to me compared to carbon and the allergies that some develop to balsa dust, ca and epoxy.
From Paul · February 28, 2012 3:14 PM
great idea. dxf format would be great, as well as pdf for many.
From Paul · February 28, 2012 3:07 PM
Hi. I am building a Bug Hlg and come across some questions. Hope some of you have answers 1) Does anyone try to use other things as fiberglass cloth
From siwat71 · February 28, 2012 3:32 AM
Hi every body out there! I have been trawling through anything i can find bug related regarding possible modifications, i have decided to redraw the plans with
From Squid · February 28, 2012 3:07 AM
If the glider tends to loop when you SAL it, you probably still have too much noseweight. Move the CG back a little and try again. Remember that the Bug
From John Gallagher · February 26, 2012 9:23 PM
Hi, It has been a pain as we have hardly had the normal calm balmy Auckland weather this Summer...alot wetter and some-what windy....I actually got more flying
From Laurie · February 26, 2012 6:39 PM
I have had a few crashes and they usually mean a broken rib or two...when rebuilding I have noticed how much compression the ribs u are under...so have been
From Laurie · February 26, 2012 6:37 PM
FYI, I had it come loose a week ago or so...It wasn t until I moved the rudder with my finger that I saw the heat shrink tubing had let it loose...A quick
From Laurie · February 26, 2012 6:35 PM
Hi, just been out for a fly!!!...A good 20 mins of launches and a little thermaling.... Several weeks ago a club mate checked out the balance and we figured I
From Laurie · February 26, 2012 6:23 PM
Thanks to those who responded to this. Yes, the answer is Unless Noted Otherwise . I believe this is an engineering term.
From Mark · December 12, 2011 4:40 AM
Unless Noted Otherwise -- UNO The club I Fly with have a lot of balsa builders and they told me what it meant. Your planes will have some other type of wood
From Steven Reed · December 11, 2011 9:23 AM
Interesting notes on the wings and looking forward to the results and any how tos. For now for my first bug, I ll build according to the plan as light as I
From mpwlad · December 10, 2011 12:22 PM
Laurie, thanks for responding. Ready for a laugh? It means Unless Noted Otherwise and was referring to the thickness of components on the plan, an HLG
From Mark Moran · December 9, 2011 4:35 AM
I know UNO on blue prints means unless noted otherwise. So maybe use balsa wood unless noted otherwise. Thats my best guess without actually seeing the
From ragnit71@att.net · December 8, 2011 10:55 PM
That s a new one on me...not a brand name by any chance...?? Laurie -- Laurie Carroll (LWJ Carroll) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · December 8, 2011 10:17 PM
Sorry if this is a bit off piste guys but as this is an active forum again I thought someone may know the answer. I saw a plan the other day, in fact two
From Mark · December 8, 2011 5:54 AM
I feel pretty stupid! Upon taking a closer look at the drawing, I now see that both the X and V tails are shown on the same drawing. Hope I didn t bother
From pelagicphish · December 7, 2011 10:36 PM
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ... From: Mark Stephen Sender: BugHLG@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:24:49 To:
From michael.smith@twofour.com · December 6, 2011 7:48 AM
Guys, aren t we de-bugging the bug? Longer wing, thinner airfoil-- I think it ought to be called something like Winged Invertebrate or Treehopper . Either
From Katie Taylor · December 6, 2011 1:08 PM
Where are the PDF plans for the Bug X-Tail? I ve seen many pictures of the X-Tail Bug, but as of yet, have never seen any plans. Thanks...
From pelagicphish · December 6, 2011 10:21 PM
The AG3X series require d-tube sheeting to get the performance out of them. That would be a neat trick for the eliptic shaped leading edge of the bug - you
From John Gallagher · December 6, 2011 12:41 PM
AG38? That might not be such a bad one to try and do a comparison. Don t know just how soon I would be able to get to it, material on it s way for some other
From Mark Stephen · December 5, 2011 10:24 PM
We are stretching the span, what we need to explore next is a thinned airfoil. I believe that the S3014 is about 9.5% thick. Today this is considerred a
From John Gallagher · December 5, 2011 8:42 PM
For my small part in that list, your welcome, same to mpwlad. Next up is a stretched wing, and I do mean stretched. Took the CAD drawing, stretched the panel
From Mark Stephen · December 5, 2011 10:25 AM
Thanks for the torsion spring tutorial, aft peg placement notes and photos, words on electronics and weight reduction and optimal use of reinforcement instead
From mpwlad · December 4, 2011 1:26 PM
Nice torsion spring tutorial - thanks
From mpwlad · December 4, 2011 12:48 PM
If I am understanding your question correctly, my answer is that I only bevel the control surface of the Rudder and Elevator. That will give you a max swing,
From Mark Stephen · November 26, 2011 12:03 AM
Dear Mark, That s a fabulous photo series. Thanks for that! Would you bevel the hinge-side edges of the stab and elevator? Regards, Chuck
From chuck.glider · November 23, 2011 5:42 PM
There is now also a PDF in the file section with the photos in order for your downloading and offline viewing pleasure.
From Mark Stephen · November 21, 2011 3:21 PM
I uploaded the series of photos on how I make my T spring hinges and they are in the Photo Albums section under Spring Hinge Control Surface . Each photo
From Mark Stephen · November 21, 2011 2:26 PM
John, Rick, I ll set up a few pieces of scrap and do a spring hinge on them later tonight or tomorrow and take pics to post. Would not do much good to take
From Mark Stephen · November 19, 2011 10:29 PM
I have the same concerns. The constant pressure is considered a good thing for launching but it does sound like a strain on the servo. The same problems
From John Gallagher · November 18, 2011 10:46 AM
I ve wondered about the string/spring method as well. I used the wire with etched tubing because I had it left over from another DLG build. The thing that
From kb11troy · November 18, 2011 4:22 AM
Let me did around and look through my Bug file and see what I have. What in particular would you like to see? I didn t do anything too fancy. Just a small
From Mark Stephen · November 17, 2011 5:14 PM
Mark, I was just about to ask if anyone used the string and spring method. Any chance that you can upload some photos to the groups site? I also debated
From John Gallagher · November 17, 2011 4:32 PM
On my Bug, I have used string and spring. The pull string is .009 music wire (guitar string). Also use a piece of that same wire for the spring in the hing.
From Mark Stephen · November 17, 2011 10:16 AM
I ve bought unetched teflon off ebay for pretty cheap. Nothing will stick to it (of course, we have all seen the saucepan ads!!), but the thought was tiny wrap
From Stuart Bradley · November 16, 2011 9:53 PM
Hi All, I have a dream, a dream to unite all model makers and collectors around the world under one model mega-site. Wouldn t it be great to have a place were
From scrollockuk · November 17, 2011 9:02 AM
Laurie, The teflon tubing is the best, but there is a lower cost alternative to the teflon tubing. It s Sullivans Gold-N-Cable #507. The yellow tubing works
From gldrgidr · November 16, 2011 9:29 PM
Laurie- John is right about the thin steel pushrods- they need housings. I used .018 music wire in etched teflon tubing on mine and it works superbly. You can
From kb11troy · November 16, 2011 3:47 PM
Let me correct something in my last post. The very thin steel pushrods need pushrod housings just like carbon rods. John
From gldrgidr · November 16, 2011 2:33 PM
I have been doing the replacement rod connector and recalled I had originally crushed the rod when trying to cut it...now I am cutting and then sanding the rod
From Laurie · November 16, 2011 1:28 AM
I avoid carbon rods for something like the Bug. Something this small is more likely to be knocked around by the wind causing hard landings. Carbon rods do
From John Gallagher · November 16, 2011 1:29 PM
Hi, Well it has been flying really well...btw Solite can stick to itself like the Dickens...you need to be extra careful while putting it on, however it is
From Laurie · November 15, 2011 9:44 PM
Hi all, I had set this up and it was working very well...also relatively easy to in stall..I used the Dubro heat shrink/L shaped connector wire for the surface
From Laurie · November 15, 2011 9:53 PM
Hi...update...it seems to enable me to get more consistent lauches...aka same profile each time...it tracks up into the air in a similar pattern each time
From Laurie · November 15, 2011 9:55 PM
Hi Rick, Not sure I am getting that height, but it does make it easier to do the SAL/DLG style launch... Waiting for calmer spring/summer weather here...but it
From Laurie · November 10, 2011 1:54 AM
I have changed to doing this with CA adhesive and it is really hard now...it has also been a lightweight way to repair the fuselarge etc...Laurie
From Laurie · November 10, 2011 1:51 AM
We would need to know the error and probably which P DF reader you are using if the error occurs in that..?? Rgds Laurie
From Laurie · November 10, 2011 1:48 AM
When I try downloading the bug-x vtail pdf I always get an error. Is anyone else having this problem?
From Dave · November 9, 2011 8:13 PM
Jerry, The file is a pdf. It prints out to the correct scale. If you have Adobe reader version 10 you can print it to a regular pc printer. Also, any
From John Gallagher · November 9, 2011 7:43 PM
The bug plan in our file section.My question is what would be the correct increase in plan size for constructing the Bug. Many thanks FDNYJERY
From JERRY · November 9, 2011 7:41 AM
... Check the Files area- the Bug plan is there. Rick
From kb11troy · November 8, 2011 3:40 PM
Hey Guys: Look in the files section of this group for Bug plans! Thermals, Ken in Carmichael ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From Ken Holden · November 6, 2011 1:11 PM
Hi guys, I am a new member. I was wondering is the Bug available from RCM? I heard somewhere that there was a free plan for this beaut? I could be wrong. Any
From mattnsim · November 6, 2011 3:23 AM
I have dealt with their plans service and they do good work. Got my Bug plan, but haven t built it yet. They were even nice enough to send me a copy of one
From Richard Adams · November 6, 2011 7:01 AM
Yeah- like they re saying, the plan is right here in the files section- Bug X-V Tail Plan.pdf . Here s a tip- Acrobat Reader 10 (or X ) will now tile and
From kb11troy · November 6, 2011 8:15 AM
The cross/X-tail plans are the plans redrawn. I haven t checked but I believe they are to scale. When RCM went under, they gave the plans service to one of
From John Gallagher · November 6, 2011 2:35 AM
Apart from buying used ones, not that I know of...However I do believe there are plans here for a modified (1/2 ribs added) wing...and there is the cross tail
From Laurie · November 3, 2011 6:36 PM
Look in the files section of the group home page. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BugHLG/files/ ________________________________ From: lawrence
From John Gallagher · November 3, 2011 7:10 PM
is there any other source for the bug plans other than RCM, Ive tryed calling them several times always a recording, this last attempt the recording said they
From lawrence · November 3, 2011 12:47 PM
Thanks for that Rick...I am just doing that now to my Bug...I think I was only getting 20-30 foot launches with no DLG peg.... I was out flying yesterday for a
From Laurie · October 10, 2011 7:14 PM
I ve added some photos of the launch peg I built into my extended wing for the Bug. Launch pegs that are set well aft of the main spar are known to give better
From kb11troy · October 8, 2011 12:11 PM
Hi...just loaded up some build photos.....also my idea of a solid launch tip instead of a DLg peg.... The fusable liner has worked well as a standin for
From Laurie · September 11, 2011 9:11 AM
Hi...I think Micafilm is similar to Solarfilms Fibrefilm....????...Rgds....Laurie ... -- Laurie Carroll (LWJ Carroll) [Non-text portions of this message have
From Laurie (WJ) Carroll · September 7, 2011 10:07 PM
Floppy disk media. The springs make good pull spring controls material too.
From rustynail_snr · August 31, 2011 7:31 AM
I use silicone to make a hinge. Bevel the edges of the tailp plane and elevator. Hold the tail plane and elevator together at the un-bevelled side with masking
From John Godwin · August 31, 2011 8:22 AM
Thanks for the reply. I m assuming it was similar to tyvek but thinner. Is this right? Does anyone else have an idea for hinges? Mitch On Aug 30, 2011, at 6:01
From Mitch Eaves · August 30, 2011 7:27 PM
Try here for Micafilm: http://www.faimodelsupply.com/FAI6-COVER.htm . Micafilm is made by Coverite. Also marketed by Solarfilm in the UK, as Fibafilm. This
From Lee Teicheira · August 30, 2011 3:30 AM
Hello Mitch, I wrote the original article on Micafilm hinging - http://www.rcarticles.9f.com/. A lot of what you see on the group site is at least 6 years old.
From gldrgidr · August 30, 2011 7:01 PM
Could you please remove me from you email group? I have no idea why I'm in this group. Thank you in advance. [Non-text portions of this message have been
From Andy Grammatico · August 29, 2011 2:14 PM
Hello Group, I m a new member. I just build my first Bug. In fact this was my first build up balsa model ever. It flies great. Thanks for the great
From Mitch Eaves · August 28, 2011 12:38 PM
BTW I have been trying out fuse-able dress liner...instead of light weight fiberglass...with white glue....it appears to be strong enough for the job..it is
From Laurie · August 24, 2011 8:52 AM
I have the wing built now plus fuselage...next thing is attaching the tail...I have bought Solite covering for the wing. I do have some litespan but I dont
From Laurie · August 24, 2011 8:48 AM
Hi, Regards hinging..there is a note at the end of the pdf manual that explains how to use Micafilm covering to make hinges..they go into a slit...it explains
From Laurie · August 24, 2011 8:45 AM
Hi Pail, You may want to check out a wing design programme called Profili2...as it has a tab in which you can work out reynolds numbers based on wing chord and
From Laurie · August 24, 2011 8:40 AM
Hi there, I have only just seen your request for a Bug plan so you may already have one but if not I have the Swedish one as three A4 pdfs, plus the
From Mark Moran · August 20, 2011 5:59 AM
Hey John With today s radio gear, getting under 3 ounces (85g) is pretty easy. The bug was designed around the Hitec HS-50 servos, 555 receiver and a 3x50ma
From Lee Teicheira · August 14, 2011 2:02 AM
Matt, I think you are just bragging about how light your bug is. Most of the rest of us are doing our best to get the weight below 115 grams. It does seem
From gldrgidr · August 13, 2011 5:38 PM